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Page 2 of 3 The TMF process is not the an effective stop gate. To allow the project to progress knowing a permit to operate the water system may not be issued to a HOA, once the subdivision has already been approved is a little late. It would be better to have all the information, regarding if and how a permit can be issued with a HOA, before it progresses much further. Adrienne I i I From: Rodney Estrada [EH] Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 10:23 AM To: Adrienne Ellsaesser [EH] Cc: Donna Heran [EH]; Laurie Cotulla [EH] Subject: RE: Arbor MHP WS Adrienne, The change of ownership of the MHP, if and when it becomes a homeowner's association (HOA), will not occur as part of the current land use project(Major Subdivision Application). The Department of Real Estate will require the formation of a HOA in order to allow the sale of individual lots, after the land use I project is approved. It would appear from Joe's email that the method of permitting of the water system will be determined at the time of application for change of ownership. I spoke with joe regarding the timing of ' land use approval vs the change of ownship permitting process and also sent him a copy via email of the letter from Gilchrist& Rutter. Thanks, Rod From: Adrienne Ellsaesser [EH] Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 4:18 PM To: Rodney Estrada [EH] Cc: Laurie Cotulla [EH]; Donna Heran [EH] Subject: FW: Arbor MHP WS FYI- The C DPH does have concerns with their proposal. Please hold off on the land use project until I hear back from MPH. j Thank you, Adrienne I From: Spano, Joseph (CDPH-DDWEM) [mailto:Joseph.Spano@cdph.ca.gov] Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:56 PM To: Haberman, Richard (CDPH-DDWEM-DWFO) Cc: Adrienne Ellsaesser [EH] Subject: FW: Arbor MHP WS If this conversion goes forward, what if your suggestion for preventing the establishment of a water system owned and operated by a homeowner's association. Would it simply be the County denying a permit for such an arrangement and notifying the MHP that it will have to establish a public type of water system ownership, such as a community services district, a public utility district, a water district under state law, or some similar acceptable form of ownership? My better thought is that this will have to go through a change of ownership, so TMF will have to be established before the new permit can be issued. Would that be the best place to require the establishment of a public water utility? Thanks. i 6/16/2009