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MICHAEL COLLINS CondenseItr"` ]UNE 2, 1994 <br /> Page 41 Page 43 <br /> 1 our regulation because it is contaminated. 1 Safi Joaquin Valley Air Pollution Control District, I <br /> 2 Q. Okay. So could they have removed it to a 2 have a date at the top of the letter that it's dated <br /> 3 different site owned by Save-Mor? 3 July the 8th, 1993. <br /> 4 A. Yes. 4 Q. Was that when the permit was applied for or <br /> 5 Q. So I guess the limitation is putting it on 5 do your records show that? <br /> 6 somebody else's property? 6 A. This is an approved permit. <br /> 7 A. Correct, It could also have been removed to 7 Q. Okay. So that was the date it was approved <br /> 8 a landfill after they had properly characterized it with 8 by the County? <br /> 9 chemical analysis. 9 A. That's correct. And since, subsequent to <br /> 10 Q. So i guess that actually could have been 10 that date,apparently it's been tested. The soil was <br /> 11 done during the excavation period itself? I 1 sampled on February 28th, 1994 by sHN under my <br />` 12 A. That's correct. 12 oversight. <br />' I3 Q. Has anybody else told you why that was not 13 Q. Okay. So you were there? <br /> 14 done? 14 A. Yes. <br /> 15 <br /> _ , _NtR.PAPAS: You.mean during-the :. - ..�..- .- 15 - }Q:=-And that came back no detected levels of <br /> 16 excavation? 16 contamination or acceptable Ievels? <br /> 17' MR.HASTINGS: Q.Let me ask you this: 17 A. Acceptable levels of TPHg and BTEX. <br /> 18 Do you know whether the soil has been removed as of 18 Q. At that point does the County's involvement <br /> 19 today? 19 with the soil end? <br /> 20 A. Yes,.I know whether it's been removed. 20 'A. Yes, at that point we notified Save-Mor. <br /> l <br /> 21 Q. Okay. What do you know about that? 21 Q. What kind of a notification? <br /> 22 A. It's still behind the store or the side of 22 �A. 1 believe the notification was actually to <br /> t 23 thet <br /> store behind a fence. It's no longer contaminated. 23 SHN that the soil was no longer under our regulation or <br /> 24 Q. How do you know that? 24 oversight. <br /> ,25 A. We've sampled it. We've overseen the 25 Q. Approximately,how much soil was there when <br /> Page 42 Page 44 <br /> I sampling. 1 you saw it on December 28th? <br /> 2 Q. What happened to the contamination? 2 MR.PAPAS: When he saw it on <br /> 3 A. The gasoline constituent went--TPHg gas 3 December 28th? <br /> 4 and especially BTEx are very volatile and if you leave 4 MR.HASTINGS: Q.I'm sorry. February <br /> 5 the soil out for a long period of time,it will aerate 5 28th, 1994? <br /> 6 and volatize out. 6 A. <br /> There were actually three small piles, a <br /> 7 Q. Okay. Is there a permit required for the 7 three cubic yard pile, an eighty cubic yard pile and a <br /> 8 aeration of contaminated soil? 8 hundred and fifty cubic yard pile. <br /> 9 A. Yes. I'd like to state,a permit is 9 Q. That seemed to be all the soil that was <br /> 10 required for intentionally aerating soil,by spreading 10 removed from the contaminated site? <br /> I 1 it out and going through a formal process of aerating 11 A. Yes. <br /> 12 it. There are a lot of sites around the county that the 12 Q. Okay, And at some point the County issues <br /> 13 soil is just sitting out and it is aerating,you might 13 some form of a closure letter? <br /> 14 say,unintentionally,but now-- 14 A. That's correct. <br /> 15 Q. Presumed unintentionally? 15 Q. Or document. What's the name of that <br /> 16 A. No permit is required if it is just sitting 16 document? <br /> 17 out and you are not formally trying to aerate it, spread 17 A. We call it a site closure letter. <br /> it <br /> 18 it out,you might say. 18 Q. Okay. When was that issued for this <br /> 19 Q. And I guess this soil got aerated not 19 project? <br /> 20 formally? 20 A. April 14, 1994. <br /> 21 A. This soil actually did get aerated formally. 21 Q. And could that only be issued after the soil <br /> 22 Q. Was there a permit? 22 that had been excavated was clean? <br /> 23 A. There was a permit. 23 A. That's correct. <br /> 24 Q. When was the permit obtained for aeration? 24 Q. If that soil had been removed to a different <br /> 25 A. Permit for aeration are obtained through the 25 location,either a landfill site or other Save-Mor <br /> PORTALS & ASSOCIATES DEPOSITION REPORTERS is Page 41 - Page 44 <br /> i <br />