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but he would not say. I asked Houston who hired him to take out the tank, he told me, Dana Smith, 333-0115. Houston then told me that he thought I probably was driving around and saw Lewellen's truck parked out front. At this point I left the site. Upon returning to the office I contacted Jerry Katzakian (209) 476-4205. 1 left a voice mail message to return the call. Later that day I received a call from Jerry Katzakian. J. Katzakian asked me who he needed to submit the soil results to. I asked J. Katzakian what the U.S.T. was used for. J. Katzakian explained his father used it to put gas in his truck that he used for a plumbing business. J. Katzakian explained how his father passed away in 1956 and the tank had not been used since. I explained the permit requirements associated with removing U.S.T.'s. J. Katzakian told me he did not realize there were permit requirements associated with removing this U.S.T. I told J. Katzakian that a permit application needed to be submitted to this office with the required permit and back fees. I told J. Katzakian I would write down the requirements on an inspection report and mail it to him. I also told J. Katzakian how situations in the past where U.S.T.'s were taken out without permits issued from this office were referred to the District Attorney's Office. I mailed an inspection report and an application to remove the U.S.T. to J. Katzakian. On September 8, 1997, 1 received a call from Art Katzakian who asked questions about completing the application to remove the U.S.T. at this site. I explained to A. Katzakian how the contractor usually completes the application. When asked, A. Katzakian explained how he had previously spoken to Doug Wilson about the removal of U.S.T.'s, and was not aware that a permit was required to remove this U.S.T. I confirmed the use of the U.S.T. with A. Katzakian who explained the tank was also used to fuel a tractor used to maintain the property. A. Katzakian explained if he had known a permit was required to remove the U.S.T., he would have applied for one. I faxed A. Katzakian a list of contractors who remove U.S.T.'s. I spoke to Doug Wilson about any recent conversations he could recall about removal of farm tanks. Wilson told me he had a conversation from somebody who had a client, who reportedly had a farm tank, and wanted to know of the permit requirements. Wilson told me he explained the farm tank requirements to the caller, and how he advised the caller of fire permit requirements regardless of the tank status. On September 15, 1997, 1 witnessed the sampling of the U.S.T. excavation by Thorpe Oil under an approved U.S.T. removal permit issued by this office on September 12, 1997. On September 16, 1997, 1 spoke to Bill Lewellen who wanted to tell me the circumstances as to why he was at this site on September 2, 1997. Lewellen told me he was at this location at the request of Houston. Lewellen explained that Houston took out the tank for Dana (potential buyer of the property). Lewellen told me he was given a description of the U.S.T.'s location before he visited the site with Houston on September 2, 1997, and when I showed up on site, Houston said, "Here comes that